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13 thoughts on “What were they thinking? pg 1

  1. Jeff B said:

    Yaaaaay new section!

    I’m slightly embarrassed to admit it, but I check this site several times a day hoping for updates. If I ever start making the big bucks, I would definitely toss in some money to the Patreon to get to the “more frequent updates” level. Need moooooooooore.

  2. UsaSatsui said:

    Hmmm. VT is included.

    • Redbear6 said:

      As is Maine. 15 out of the original 13.

      • Ma is short for Massachusetts. Maine was part of Massachusetts then. It wasn’t made a state until 1820. (Just as Vermont was admitted to balance the creation of slave state Kentucky, Maine balanced the admission of slave state Missouri.)

        • UsaSatsui said:

          Indeed, Maine was part of Mass at one point, and split off. Probably the most “Meh, whatever” secession in history.

          Which kind of suits Maine, really.

        • Redbear6 said:

          Intriguing comment. Especially since Kentucky was admitted to the union 2 years after Vermont.

          • It was 1 year later, not 2. But you’re right, it really is intriguing.

            For a fascinating longread on it, check out this article at the National Archives’ website.

            The tl;dr is they both came into the union as part of a single compromise.

      • Tin Star said:

        Were I to guess, we’re about to have a discussion dating back to the collapse of the Articles of the Confederation and the adoption of the Constitution.

        The 15 ‘states’ seem to line up with the dates and timeline associated with the period.

    • Yup. It had seceded from New York in 1777 and set up its own independent state. Not part of the U.S. until 1791. Actually considered joining Canada for a bit. But it’s included in this map for a reason that should be apparent shortly.

        • Bruce Coulson said:

          Most of the Western Reserve had already been made part of the Northwest Territory under the Articles of Confederation ( That particular legislation was grandfathered in by Congress with the Northwest Ordinance of 1789, in a tribute the only piece of significant legislation the United States in Congress Assembled ever managed to pass. (Okay, not really; but pretty close to true.)

  3. psionl0 said:

    I have waited a long time for a part 2 title and a map of the 13 original states.

    Hopefully, more pages will be coming in rapid succession now.

    • SeanR said:

      I’m sure Nathan would be flexible. Do you have his hourly fee handy? I certainly don’t.

      Nathan’s squeezing being a webcomic artist in beside being a career litigator and family man. I follow webcomics by bachelor artists, where the webcomic is supposedly their day job, who have a looser update schedule.
      I’m certainly not going to be the guy who demands that someone who is doing this for free step up production. There are far too many of those sorts as it is.

      It does present an interesting thought, though.
      Nathan. I understand that in some jurisdictions, (I think NY is one of them,) if you regularly let a person use your property, and never remind them that it is your property, and not a public right of way, it becomes an easement. What happens if you regularly give of your time, and don’t remind people that you’re not obligated to do so?
      Granted, it’d seem like the 13th amendment would prevent that.

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