Join the conversation!There are now 7 comments on pg 65. Regulation: Villages and Chiefs.What are your thoughts?
Did you mean to say 1. A.D. in that first panel? Because if you did, then it sounds like Law hadn’t been invented until 1. A.D. If Wikipedia is right, then the earliest known code of laws dates to 2050 B.C. at the latest. Wikipedia|Code_of_Ur-Nammu. I know that the Greeks and Jews had laws in the BC times. So laws not existing until after 1. A.D. can’t possibly be right .
Yeah, that last panel was supposed to imply we’re back in the neolithic again. That stone tool doesn’t register at this resolution, does it. I’ll go back and make it a little more clear. Thanks for the catch!
It was my fault for not seeing the character with the wheat saying that they are still in the Neolithic. Then again, that makes it sound like the Neolithic period extended up to 1 A.D. So now its still confusing, just for a slightly different reason. Plus, had anyone in the Neolithic period ever heard of a constitution? I thought that the oldest constitution was San Marino’s constitution from 1600 A.D.
No lie, I’m going to miss him. Uderzo’s illustrations have been part of me since childhood. So many have tried to copy his eye and style, and so few have captured his sense of humor and ability to convey so many layers of storytelling in a single panel. (Lord knows I haven’t!)
I’ve noticed you’re consistently using “clan” to refer to multiple “tribes” but in every culture I’ve read about, that terminology has been reversed. And in the versions of this system most Americans are familiar with, the Twelve Tribes of Israel and the largest Native American tribes, “clan” means an extended family within a tribe, which can be a larger lineage of which multiple clans represent different branches or even a group of seemingly unrelated clans (I mean, obviously, in reality when all the clans intermarried, they’d all be distant cousins of each other). Is there any reason you chose to reverse the terms here?
Different fields of study use the terms differently. Depending on who’s talking, a “tribe” could be an egalitarian unit of agrarian segmentary lineage-based political organization (my usage), or it could be a stratified chieftain-led society that could be either agrarian or nomadic (what is often the colloquial usage of the word), or it could be a non-lineage-based political subgroup within a large polity (as in the geographical tribes of classical Rome, or the ethnic tribes of Judea), or it could refer to small hunter-gatherer societies (as in the Amazon, sub-Saharan Africa, etc.), or it could refer to large ethnic nations (as with Native American Indians), etc. In some anthropological fields, you’ll sometimes see the unit of segmentary lineage as the “clan,” while the “tribe” isn’t lineage-based but rather refers to a larger linguistic group or ethnicity.
I’ve encountered all of these usages and more in my research, and I’ve simply adopted the usage that I’ve found in sources coming from a similar approach. I’m certainly not trying to make things more confusing than they already are, and I apologize if I did!
Did you mean to say 1. A.D. in that first panel? Because if you did, then it sounds like Law hadn’t been invented until 1. A.D. If Wikipedia is right, then the earliest known code of laws dates to 2050 B.C. at the latest. Wikipedia|Code_of_Ur-Nammu. I know that the Greeks and Jews had laws in the BC times. So laws not existing until after 1. A.D. can’t possibly be right .
Yeah, that last panel was supposed to imply we’re back in the neolithic again. That stone tool doesn’t register at this resolution, does it. I’ll go back and make it a little more clear. Thanks for the catch!
It was my fault for not seeing the character with the wheat saying that they are still in the Neolithic. Then again, that makes it sound like the Neolithic period extended up to 1 A.D. So now its still confusing, just for a slightly different reason. Plus, had anyone in the Neolithic period ever heard of a constitution? I thought that the oldest constitution was San Marino’s constitution from 1600 A.D.
Nice callout to the recently departed Albert Uderzo there in panel 3.
No lie, I’m going to miss him. Uderzo’s illustrations have been part of me since childhood. So many have tried to copy his eye and style, and so few have captured his sense of humor and ability to convey so many layers of storytelling in a single panel. (Lord knows I haven’t!)
I’ve noticed you’re consistently using “clan” to refer to multiple “tribes” but in every culture I’ve read about, that terminology has been reversed. And in the versions of this system most Americans are familiar with, the Twelve Tribes of Israel and the largest Native American tribes, “clan” means an extended family within a tribe, which can be a larger lineage of which multiple clans represent different branches or even a group of seemingly unrelated clans (I mean, obviously, in reality when all the clans intermarried, they’d all be distant cousins of each other). Is there any reason you chose to reverse the terms here?
Different fields of study use the terms differently. Depending on who’s talking, a “tribe” could be an egalitarian unit of agrarian segmentary lineage-based political organization (my usage), or it could be a stratified chieftain-led society that could be either agrarian or nomadic (what is often the colloquial usage of the word), or it could be a non-lineage-based political subgroup within a large polity (as in the geographical tribes of classical Rome, or the ethnic tribes of Judea), or it could refer to small hunter-gatherer societies (as in the Amazon, sub-Saharan Africa, etc.), or it could refer to large ethnic nations (as with Native American Indians), etc. In some anthropological fields, you’ll sometimes see the unit of segmentary lineage as the “clan,” while the “tribe” isn’t lineage-based but rather refers to a larger linguistic group or ethnicity.
I’ve encountered all of these usages and more in my research, and I’ve simply adopted the usage that I’ve found in sources coming from a similar approach. I’m certainly not trying to make things more confusing than they already are, and I apologize if I did!